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"I was standing not parking" & still got a No Parking Ticket"

 

No parking and no standing both mean no NY parking tickets stopping

Is this confusing? You betcha. So, let's see if I can vanquish the confusion, and stop the Congo line of parking tickets for these violations. Has this ever happened to you?

  • You pull into a parking space and see a no parking sign with an arrow pointing directly to your car. You say to yourself, "thank g-d I going to remain seated in my car waiting for my daughter to finish her sky diving lessons. Therefore, I'm standing not parking." Ca-ching. Pay the man $95. You are standing and parking at the same time because you stopped your car. It matters not that you remained seated behind the wheel.
  • How 'bout this one...My cell phone was ringing, so I pulled off the roadway and stopped to answer the cell phone in a no parking zone. I'll finish the call in two NY minutes. Ca-ching. The big but is a parking ticket warrior will get you in one NY minute because you are not permitted to stop temporarily in a no parking zone to answer your cell phone.
  • There's more...You spot a vacant parking space in a no parking except authorized vehicles zone and decide to land your spaceship in the vacant space. Your strategy is to remain seated behind the wheel and wait for your lovely wife to finish work. She'll be out in about 15 minutes. Ca-ching. You're a very nice husband, but your net worth just went down $95.

So, why have separate violations for no parking and no standing?

You mean, besides the obvious reason that more confusion means more parking tickets, and more do-re-mi for the Evil Empire?

The difference lies in the activity you are permitted to perform in these two different parking zones:

  • In a no parking zone, you are permitted to stop temporarily (2 minutes or less) to drop-off or pick-up a passenger AND property
  • In a no standing zone, you are only permitted to stop temporarily to drop-off or pick-up a passenger

Bonus tip #1: A bus stop is a no standing zone. This means you are NOT permitted to stop temporarily in a bus stop zone to expeditiously drop-off your Aunt Tillie and her 3 Luis Vitton suitcases. You are only permitted to drop-off people, but you get to keep their stuff.

Bonus tip #2: If you parallel park in Manhattan to back into a vacant parking space, you risk getting a parking ticket for double parking. So beware, be warned, and be careful. The Evil Empire interprets double parking as halting your car on the roadway side of a vehicle stopped, standing, or parked at the curb.

When you parallel park, you momentarily stop (halt, stand, park) your car on the roadway side of a vehicle stopped, standing, or parked at the curb. This is absolutely ludicrous and a perversion of the real evil double parking violations seek to eliminate. I'm sure, if this issue ever makes it way to the appellate courts, it will be slain forever. The big but is the Evil Empire will never let that happen.

Commentary

I recently received a telephone call from an angry member of our driving community fuming over a parking ticket. He was incensed that he was issued a parking ticket for no standing, when he clearly turned off his engine, took his keys out of the ignition, and left his vehicle. He asserted he wasn't standing he was parking.

This is an example of the no parking and no standing confusion going in both directions ("I was parking not standing" instead of "I was standing not parking").

Key take-away...Parking and Standing mean stopping your car, whether occupied or not.

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Comments

A few errors in this article: 
Therefore, I'm standing not parking." Ca-ching. Pay the man $95. No parking is $ 60 or $ 65. No Standing is $ 115. Not $ 95. 
you are permitted to stop temporarily (2 minutes or less) There is no "2-minute rule. The rule is expeditious drop off. A spry young person can get out in 5 seconds whereas an older or handicapped passenger may take 5 or more. Both are legal. 
A bus stop is a no standing zone.. Even if expeditiously dropping off a passenger in a bus stop it may warrant a summons if there is a bus present or the driver interferes with the bus coming & going.
Posted @ Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:21 AM by G-man
G-Man, 
 
Thanks for the "heads-up." You are absolutely correct about the price of no standing vs. no parking tickets. My bad. 
 
I exercised editorial license not to write about all aspects of the bus stop rule in this particular post. The point I wanted to make was simply that a bus stop is a no standing zone, which only permits dropping off people, not luggage (property). Thank you for adding this valuable information in your comment. 
 
I respectfully disagree with you regarding the term "temporarily." If temporarily means "expeditiously,"without regards to a specific time limit, how do you explain the inclusion of both terms in the bus stop rule?  
 
According to the interpretation you endorse, the bus stop rule would be redundant if temporarily meant expeditiously. Why use both terms? 
 
Now, here's the sad part...I researched this issue about 2 years ago, and cannot recall, as I write this comment, where I found the reference to temporarily meaning 2 minutes. I'm going to try to retrace my steps. "I'll be back." 
 
In the interim, I believe the interpretation you suggest is a much more enlightened view of the meaning of "temporary." Now I can drop-off my 98 year old Aunt Tillie in a no standing zone and not worry about getting a parking ticket. 
 
Be well. Thanks for your insights. 
Best, 
Larry 
Posted @ Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:25 AM by Lawrence Berezin
Hi Larry, got another T-intersection "pedestrian ramp" ticket. 
 
And I think I realized one of the problems. 
 
the ticket says the violation is "pedestrian ramp", that's not true. The violation is for parking in a cross walk (and a cross walk has a specific definition). 
 
the fact that NYC prints slips that say "pedestrian ramp" and gives that to their cops is probably a large part of the issue. (Also, this wasn't a meter maid ticket, but a precinct ticket, so will go over and complain, again, later).
Posted @ Monday, July 09, 2012 10:36 AM by sean
Sean, 
 
Good afternoon. 
This is unbelievable. 
 
You are now officially the "go to" guy on pedestrian ramps. Just what you need, right! 
 
Good luck, Sean. 
Best, 
Larry
Posted @ Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:41 PM by Lawrence Berezin
The same thing kind of happened to me. I am new to NYC because I live in NJ. I came there to attend an orientation for work and I was not sure of the parking. I saw a sign that said "No standing except commercial vehicles. 3 hours limit 7am-7pm". I misunderstood the sign and paid $9 at the munimeter and attended my orientation. When I came back I have a $115 ticket. Is there anyway for me to lessen it or dismissed it since it was a very honest mistake. It was my first time in NYC by my self so I was naive. Thanks!
Posted @ Sunday, August 05, 2012 1:03 PM by Pearl
Pearl, 
 
Good afternoon. 
You are now a proud member of the NYC driving community with your first purple heart. 
 
I can tell you are new to driving in NYC because I hear you asking whether "honest mistake" is a defense to a NYC parking ticket. 
 
I am truly sorry to report...No, not ever, never. There is no crying in baseball and no passion in the administration of NYC parking tickets. 
 
You may wish to check the front of your parking ticket for mistakes. If a required element is omitted, misdescribed, or illegible, you win upon application. 
 
Good luck, 
Best, 
Larry
Posted @ Sunday, August 05, 2012 3:22 PM by Lawrence Berezin
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