How to Beat a NYC Parking Ticket for "No Standing-Bus Stop"

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How to Beat a NYC Parking Ticket for "No Standing-Bus Stop"

Posted by Larry Berezin on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 @ 03:36 PM

Larry's Blog has received a rash of questions about NYC parking tickets for violating Code 19: No Standing-Bus Stop.

Can I be issued a NYC parking ticket when I only stopped in a bus stop zone to drop off or pick up a passenger?
How do I know the length of a bus stop? I was parked far away from the bus stop sign?
Can I look for a yellow painted curb to designate a bus stop zone?

The NYC parking rule

Violation Code (VC) 19 prohibits:

Bus Stop: Standing or parking where standing is prohibited by sign, street marking or; traffic control device

Traffic Rules, Chapter 4-08(c)(3) states:

No person shall stand or park a vehicle orther than an authorized bus in its assigned bus stop when any such stop has been officially designated and appropriately posted except that the operator of a vehicle may temporarily stand therein for the purpose of expeditiously receiving and discharging passengers provided such standing does not interfere with any bus about to enter or leave such zone

Commentary

Here's my take on the subject:

You can beat a bus stop ticket if you are dropping off or picking up a passenger.
Don't expect to find a yellow curb to indicate a bus stop zone. That would be too easy
The parking signs on the block hold the secret to the length of a bus stop zone. There must be at least one official NYC parking sign that designates the beginning of a bus stop zone, with an arrow indicating the direction(s) of the bus stop zone.
There does not have to be a second bus stop sign to indicate the end of the bus stop zone. If there is not a second parking sign anywhere on the block in the direction of the arrow(s) on the bus stop sign, the bus stop zone ends at the corner.
The bus stop sign regulates the portion of the block in the direction of the arrow until the next NYC parking sign. The bus stop zone ends at the next NYC parking sign.
If the one official bus stop sign has arrows pointing in both directions, then the bus stop zone goes in both directions until you reach another NYC parking sign or the end of the block.

[Editor's note: NYC buses are 40-45 feet in length]

A bus stop in NYC can cause some pain in the pocketbook. How many of you are old enough to remember the Hollies song about love at a bus stop? Enjoy the music.

Please share your experiences with NYC parking tickets for bus stop violations. It will help all of us.

If you found this article helpful, you may wish to share it with your friends. Simply click on the above social media buttons of your choice. Thanks, Larry

Tags: bus stop violation

Comments

Am visiting New York. Got a ticket today for supposedly parking at a bus stop area. How do you deteremine the beginning and ending of a bus stop area to know if you are in violation or not?

Posted @ Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:25 AM by Dennis Tirado

Dennis,

So sorry for missing your comment. Hopefully, better late than never.

The bus stop sign marks the beginning of a bus stop zone, regulates the portion of the block in the direction of the arrow, and ends at the next NYC parking sign.

A bus stop zone may extend the entire block in both directions.

Posted @ Monday, October 26, 2009 12:26 PM by Larry Berezin

The New York Driver’s Manual and Study Guide (Chapter 7) contains absolutely no information regarding bus stop parking guidelines (e.g. where it starts, where it ends, applicable laws, etc.)

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmanual/default.html

There is NO documentation anywhere explaning the do's and dont's of the law regarding this regulation.

Is it fair to assess a driver a $115 fine for a regulation that is not documented? I am from out of state visiting NY.

One day I parked there, no ticket. Locals did not know the law and commented they thought it was ok. Next day I park there, get a ticket. $115 is a tough way to learn a new law.

I feel this is a money making scam.

I parked 200+ away from the bus stop. There was a fire hydrant and a driveway in the "bus stop" lane. I have been driving for 35+ years and observe the traffic laws WHEN THEY ARE DOCUMENTED.

Larry Nerezin replied to me, but I am currently continuing to appeal the ticket. I was offered a $25 discount if I just paid it off by mail. Or, can accept an administrative judge to decide, but then would have to pay the fill $115 if they find against me.

Posted @ Monday, October 26, 2009 1:44 PM by Dennis Tirado

Dennis,

I hear you loud and clear; and you are not alone. You may wish to read this article from the NYT.
Link:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/12/complaint-box-no-standing/?apage=3

I receive many calls, letters and comments on Larry's Blog about the challenges you correctly raise regarding bus stop violations.

You may wish to check out NYC Traffic Rules, Title 19 Chapter 4-08(c)(3); and VC 19, which prohibit parking or standing in a bus stop zone.

You must consider these rules together with the rules covering parking signs to uncover the hidden meaning of how to determine the length of a bus stop zone. Generally, there will always be one sign, displaying a little bus and an arrow pointing in one or both directions. This designates the beginning of a bus stop zone. The arrow on a NYC parking sign indicates the portion of a block regulated by the rule on the parking sign:

In the direction of the arrow;
until the next parking sign, or the end of the block.

A bus stop sign, with an arrow pointing to the left means that the bus stop zone extends to the left of the sign until the next parking sign to the left, or the end of the block to the left. A NYC bus is about 45 feet long. A bus stop zone may be 45 feet or 465 feet. The distance you park from the sign is not relevant.

The bus stop zone extends from the bus stop sign, in the direction of the arrow until the next sign or the end of the block; however long the distance may be.

Good luck with your appeal Let us know how you make out

Posted @ Monday, October 26, 2009 3:08 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks for the prompt reply. I read the information you sent me, there is no clear explanation of the bus lane parking violation law.

I am going to continue appealing this ticket - it is a hefty fine. And will escalate higher when the appropriate time comes.

What happens if I don't pay it? Just can't come visit New York again.... and spend my money elsewhere?

Posted @ Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:05 AM by Dennis Tirado

Dennis,

Did you have any luck?

Posted @ Monday, November 09, 2009 5:11 PM by Dan

Dan,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and share your parking ticket experience. I'll answer your second question, first. A missing VIN #, unfortunately, does not entitle you to a dismissal of your parking ticket.

Good thinking about a possible defense to your parking ticket. Generally, we raise the defense of a missing or defaced sign to fight a parking ticket issued for a violation of the rule displayed on the missing sign.

Parking ticket warriors can be pretty amazing. Imagine issuing a ticket based upon a rule contained on sign that is no longer attached to the pole. It's the old "empty pole violation."

In your case, your defense involves arguing that the missing sign would have designated the end of the bus zone, had it not be removed from the pole. Interesting, it may work. You may wish to attach a photograph of the sign that was on the pole, before it was "removed," along with your photographs.

Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 AM by Larry Berezin

Larry, I received a ticket for parking in a bus stop. The bus stop sign starts in the middle of the block but has no clear designation of its end. I see that you have addressed this part of my description before, however. The bus stop sign has no arrows pointing in either direction, and the bus does not run between 10:42pm and 6:32am. I was parked on the corner by the crosswalk and received the ticket around 3:30am. Does this sound like I have a decent chance of thwarting this ticket?

Thanks,
Chaun

Posted @ Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:02 AM by Chaun

I appealed my stopping in a bus stop and got reduced to $90 from $150. I could have let it go to law judge but ran risk of paying in full. So I was extorted the $90.

Posted @ Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:58 PM by sheila

Chaun,
Wow. You guys keep me young with all your excellent questions. We all know what arrows mean on a sign. But, as Chaun asks, what if there are no arrows?

I believe, but I'm not 100% sure, when a bus stop sign has no arrow, it probably extends in both directions until the next parking sign, or the end of the block.

Can any one of our visitors or friends shed some more light on this subject? Love to hear from you. My suggestion, absent someone coming to our rescue, is to apply for the reduction.

Good luck.

Posted @ Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:12 PM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry,

I just went online to pay a meter ticket and saw an outstanding ticket for a "no standing bus stop" violation..which is now up to $165 or something crazy. I not only never got this ticket, but I have never stopped in front of that bus stop. Maybe I was dropping someone off? Do I have any way of arguing this ticket?

Thanks so much.

Posted @ Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:37 PM by michelle

I got a ticket for stopping in a bus stop. I asked the agent if I could drop off my daughter. She said no and I moved along. I never got the first ticket but got the second notice plus penalty. I did appeal with an affadavit from my daughter supporting my allegations. I only got a reduced amount and could chose an ALJ review. You either get found 100% innocent or pay full amount. Since I do SSA claims and know all about ALJ decisions I wasnt up for some arbitrary decision an ALJ pulls out of his you know what. I paid the $90 reduced fine and wrote extortion in the memo line. I also filed a Civilian Review Board Complaint and wrote to the mayor. This is an excellent source of funds for the city. Don't get crazy with fighting the beaucracy - it will never work. Just discharge your frustration by holding their feet to the fire. If you google about these meter maids, they had a law passed increasing the penalty for assaulting them. Tells you the level of frustration they create.

Posted @ Thursday, December 10, 2009 7:48 AM by shiela

This is the first time I have visited your site. I have read some interesting comments. I received a "No Standing Bus Stop" ticket and just got the letter back today. I have chosen to "contest the summons" I was a great distance from the bus stop sign. I was actually parked at the next sign which was designated street parking. It was pouring rain but I did take pictures of both signs and my vehicle before I drove off. I wanted to know the legal distance of the bus stop. Since that is not available. I will still use the information I received from your site and my photos to contest. I will let you know the outcome. Thanks

Posted @ Thursday, December 10, 2009 5:42 PM by MARIE

Sheila,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website. You insights resonate with us. You must continue to fight when you're right. Especially when you have the skill to engage your accuser; a little piece of paper.

Kudos for your gumption. Please let us know the outcome.

Posted @ Friday, December 11, 2009 6:11 PM by Larry Berezin

Marie,
You are very welcome. Thanks so much for sharing your experience. It will help us all.

There is no legal distance for a bus stop. A bus stop zone starts with the No Standing-Bus Stop sign and extends in the direction of the arrow until the next parking sign. You are required to park beyond the next sign to avoid a parking ticket.

So, if you parked in between the "No Standing-Bus Stop" sign and the next parking sign, you violated the rule. If not, and your photographs back you up, and your affidavit is in order, you should win.

I've written several blog posts on the subject. I hope the posts were helpful.

Good luck. I can't wait to hear the outcome.

Posted @ Friday, December 11, 2009 6:19 PM by Larry Berezin

i got ticketed for no standing in bus stop area. but i just went in to dominoes to pick-up my order and the bus sign was further up from my car. I didnot take any pictures, so how do i appeal not guilty???

Posted @ Monday, December 14, 2009 6:34 PM by trisha

Trisha,
Thank you for stopping by our website and posting some great questions.

VC 40: No Standing-Bus Stop. The defense to a parking ticket is you were stopped temporarily to drop off or pick up a passenger; and did not interfere with a bus entering or departing the bus stop zone. You can't run into dominoes to pick up your pizza.

Keep in mind that a bus stop zone is not measured by distance. It runs from the bus stop sign to the next parking sign; or the end of the block (in the direction of the arrow(s). A bus stop can extend for an entire NYC block.

Under your case history, you may wish to apply for a reduced fine.

Happy Holidays. Park safely!

Posted @ Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:15 PM by Larry Berezin

Mickhaela,
I apologize for the delay in responding to your important question. There has been a lot of traffic on the bus stop post; and I overlooked your comment. Me bad!

Without more information, and taking a look at your ticket, I'm afraid it is difficult for me to give you an accurate response.

If you'd like to submit a form with your information, I'm happy to help.

Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:10 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry. A few months ago I got a ticket for parking in a bus stop zone in NY. Not being from NYC and not being able to locate any NYC driver's manual detailing the bus stop zone parking details, I decided to make an appeal. The undocumented "secret" of the length of the bus stop zone is a shame on NYC officials who prey on the unsuspecting.

Anyway, I received a reply that my appeal had been received, and a one time offer to reduce the fine by $25 to $90. I replied that I was not going to pay because I stil did not understand what I had done wrong, or how I could have ever known.

Three months later, I received a notice that my ticket has been dismissed,not on the merits of the case I presented, but because of an incorrect detail that had been noted on the ticket by the parking officer. The reviewer caught this error on his own and dismissed the ticket.

Law 238 reads "(b) If any information which is required to be inserted on a notice of violation is omitted from the notice of violation, misdescribed, or illegible, the violation shall be dismissed upon application of the person charged with the violation."

Might be a worthwhile option in some case, for your readers.

Posted @ Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:07 PM by Dennis

Great tips, thank you! My car was 47 feet from the bus stop sign, and I was thinking on arguing that I was enough far away (it would be worth a $25 discount anyway). However, after reading all the entries, I realize that two details in my ticket are incorrect: the color is described as black but it's green, and the body type is described as 4DSD when it's a station wagon. Do you think the fine will be disqualified based on that?

Posted @ Monday, January 18, 2010 9:33 PM by Giovanni Ciriani

Giovanni,
The world loves a winner; and you are a winner! Before we get to the good stuff, don't forget a bus stop zone is not measured in feet. It starts from the bus stop sign and extends until the next parking sign, in the direction of the arrow. If no other parking signs on the block, the bus stop zone extends to the end of the block.

Now, the good news is body time is a required element. If omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you are entitled to a dismissal of your parking ticket upon application.

The world loves a winner and so does New York Parking Ticket.
Congratulations, Giovanni.

Posted @ Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:25 PM by Larry Berezin

Dennis,
It was incredibly nice of you to share your great story with us. I have written numerous articles and replies to blog comments about omitted, misdescribed or illegible required elements. Your comment gives me another chance to remind our readers about the benefits of checking the front of your parking tickets for mistakes, before crushing, stomping, or crumpling up the ticket.

You are right about the bus stop violation rule. You may wish to read Giovanni's comment and my reply below. We try to publish articles on Larry's Blog that alert members of the driving public to rules and information not easily discoverable on the DOT or DOF web site. The information may be there; but sometimes is hidden behind the hot dog truck.

Thanks again for sharing your experience, which benefits all of us.

Posted @ Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:34 PM by Larry Berezin

i got towed for parking in an "illegal spot"- apparently it was a bus spot, but there was no arrow stating "no parking" from there to the bus stop which was ahead of my car. doesn't there need to be a "no standing" sign with an arrow showing where a car can't park?

Posted @ Wednesday, March 03, 2010 5:12 PM by Rebecca Soper

Rebecca
I'm so sorry for your ticket and tow. Here is a link to an article I published that will answer your question. Even has a diagram.

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/bid/29041/How-to-Avoid-a-Parking-Ticket-for-Fire-Hydrant-Bus-Stop-VIolations

If you still have any questions after checking out the post, please feel free to ask.

Good luck.

Posted @ Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:06 PM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry:

I just got a for "No Standing Bus Stop", VC #19 last night. I read through your Blogs and find a lot of helpful information. thank you first!

Here is what happened:

1) I were picking up one friend and have to stop the car to call him back since I just missed his call and don't know his location. So it ends up I'm standing in bus stop zone since all street or meter parking is occupied. At that moment, no bus is entering or leaving bus zone.

2) A traffic agent stop his car in front of me. He scan my registration first and was writing a ticket. I told him I am calling my friend to pick him up. He told me here is not a talking zone. At the same time, my friend arrive and he saw it. Then he just hand me the ticket without a word.

Please tell me if the following a couple of things will help:

1) He mis-spell my last name, missing one letter as "Chan".

2) I do have AT&T cellular phone usage record to indicate a call on 10:29pm to my friend and he gave me ticket at 10:31pm.

Do I have a chance to be a winner?

Thank you!

Jack

Posted @ Friday, March 05, 2010 1:23 AM by Jack Chang

when an emergency vehicle is approaching we need to pull to the right...however my question can we pull right into a place marked "NO STANDING OR NO STOPPING OR FIRE HYDRANT OR DOUBLE PARKING" kind of situation. what should we do? should we break those traffic laws or should we keep driving until we find a safe place on right side?

Posted @ Wednesday, March 17, 2010 4:13 PM by green

Jack
I am sorry to say, your story is not a defense to a bus stop violation. Sorry. You are still a winner to all of your friends at New York Parking Ticket.

Misspelling your name is not grounds for a dismissal of your parking ticket.

I recommend you apply for a fine reduction. Thanks for taking your valuable time to share your parking experience. I am sure many members of the NYC driving public have made the same or similar mistake.

Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:14 PM by Larry Berezin

I received a bus stop citation. While I would have been within the imaginary bus zone, the bus stop sign did not say "no parking or standing." On top of that, DIRECTLY BEHIND/BESIDE the bus stop sign was a sign that said I could park there on the day and time when I was parked. I'm contesting because any reasonable person would look at both the signs together and see it as allowing you to park there because why else would you have a parking sign that said you could park there at that time? Do you have any advice?

Posted @ Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:47 PM by CH

I posted initially on January 18, 2010 9:33 PM. I followed the tactic suggested by somebody else, trying to dismiss the fine because it contained incorrect info. The car was described as Sedan but it is a Station Wagon instead.

I just received the Decision and order from the department of finance. It says: "...This misdescription is considered harmless error and is not grounds for dismissal... Only a reasonable description is required."

So I'm almost ready to pay. However, I'm not giving up yet, After looking up the law for "Traffic Law Section 238 - Notice Of Violation", I found the following:

§ 238. Notice of violation. ...
2. A notice of violation shall be served ... together with the plate ... body type of said vehicle...
2-(b) If any information which is required to be inserted on a notice of violation is omitted from the notice of violation, misdescribed, or illegible, the violation shall be dismissed upon application of the person charged with the violation.

To cut to the chase, I did ask for dismissal, but I didn't quote the article number, and in my opinion the clerk in the finance department ignored the law. So shall I appeal? And how do I do it this time? I'm in CT 2 hours from the city so it would be cost effective only if I can do it by mail.

Posted @ Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:09 PM by Giovanni Ciriani

Mike
I can imagine, Mike. No Standing Snow Emergency Sign in my opinion is a parking sign (it should have a DOT label at the base of the sign). That sign marks the end of a bus stop zone. If you parked beyond the sign, away from from bus stop sign, you did not violate the bus stop rule.

When you're right--FIGHT.
Please let me know how you make out.
Good luck, Mike

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:31 AM by Larry Berezin

CH
Verrrry interesting argument. I like it if the bus stop sign, absolutely, positively does not display, "no standing" on the sign.
(see the bus stop sign on our "guide to parking sign" web page).

You need to submit photographs of the all the signs, front and back of each sign, on the entire block; and argue that the two signs are conflicting/confusing.

Good luck!
Let us know how you make out.

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:02 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks, Larry. I took a look at a photo of the sign, which I did mail in, but I failed to notice that the bus sign indeed had a single arrow in the direction of my car. However, the sign directly beside/behind it had arrows going both directions stating parking was okay except for Mon-Fri before 6pm (and I parked on a sunday). I would also note that there was no other parking sign (indicating an end to the bus zone) in the direction of the bus stop arrow and at most four cars could have parked there. What do you think? The bus stop trumps?

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:14 PM by CH

CH
I'd love to take a look at your photos. Looking forward to the outcome. A passing thought....If there is a sign to the left of the bus stop sign with an arrow pointing in the direction of the bus stop sign, it only regulates the space between the sign to the left and the bus stop sign.

Let's see the tale your photos tell.

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:42 PM by Larry Berezin

I don't have a photo on me, but hopefully this link to google maps will work.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=312+bowery+new+york,+ny&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=49.444078,70.136719&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=312+Bowery,+New+York,+10012&ll=40.725225,-73.99214&spn=0,359.99893&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=40.725117,-73.992177&panoid=o-4GwUzSRxH-Yqv_L0efcA&cbp=12,89.54,,1,-2.5

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:50 PM by CH

CH
Great view. Linked worked perfectly.

Technically, the "no parking" sign only regulates about 7 inches of parking space in the direction of the bus stop sign. It is a joke. Very confusing!
I really don't know how you or other members of the driving public are supposed to figure this one out.

A judge is permitted to dismiss a parking ticket because the signage is confusing or contradictory. The right judge will; all the judges SHOULD!

Let me know the outcome.
Immensely enjoyed our conversation.

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:01 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks! I'll let you know what happens.

Posted @ Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:06 PM by CH

Hi I am from Jersey and parked in a so called bus stop zone in NYC between Houston st and greene street. The bus stop didnt have a sign to where it extends ,left or right. But I did give enough gap. I understand from all the comments and replies so far that I am eligible for a ticket. What I dont understand is There were cars parked under the sign to the right of the bus stop and they were not issues a ticket. But I was parked to the left of the bus stop with a gap and only I received a ticket. Why would I alone receive a ticket. I feel good for the others but I want to understand how I can also feel good for myself.

Posted @ Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:20 PM by Karthik

Karthik
I hear you, Karthik. It never feels good to be picked out from a crowd of wrongdoers and punished. Unfortunately, it happens countless number of times, every day in NYC.

I suggest you are a member of a huge, proud group of people who take the hit and pay the dime for your fellow members of the driving public.

There was probably a little, tiny arrow below the bus pointing in one or both directions. If not, the sign is considered to point in both directions.

Make sure you check the front of the ticket for mistakes. If a required element is omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you win upon application. If none, please be sure to apply for the reduced fine. It will be lowered from $115 to $90.

Posted @ Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:54 PM by Larry Berezin

I plead not guilty on a ticket I received for parking at a Bus-Stop-That-Once-Was, the signage was removed approx. 10 days before I parked there, the only thing left was the Shelter (which doesn't indicate a No Standing zone in NYC law), photos are attached here:

http://community.webshots.com/album/576472526XQNwus after losing the online hearing because I didn't include the photos, I appealed with the photos as well as copy of the MTA changed bus route showing that there is no bus stop, still the Not-So-Honorable judge decided to dismiss the ticket without giving any written reason, so the only next option would be to file and article 78 which starts out with a $200 base fee plus judge fees and what not (the ticket is only $115), so my money has been stolen and here you have another NYC/Dept. of Finance victim.

Thank You

Posted @ Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:09 PM by J Rubin

Sorry should say not To dismiss the ticket

Posted @ Wednesday, June 02, 2010 3:10 PM by J Rubin

I got a parking ticket at 10:08p and schedule states that buses stop running at 8:34p. Do I have a valid argument that this is an "inactive" bus stop during the times buses are not operating? HELP!

Posted @ Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:03 AM by Milly

J,
I applaud your passion. Our mantra is When you're right-FIGHT, and present the proper proof, properly.

You were absolutely correct. You were issued an unjustified parking ticket. The problem is you fell into the "fight your parking ticket online trap." Never, ever under any circumstances dispute a parking ticket online. You can't win without proof. You cannot submit the proper proof, properly online.

With that said, when you appeal an adverse decision, you are not permitted to submit new evidence. Your must demonstrate the original hearing officer made a mistake of law or fact. The second bite of the apple is much less palatable than the first.

My recommendation is to learn from your mistake, like we all do. Next time, you'll get it right.
By the way, if you wish to retain a lawyer to file an Article 78 application, you can expect to incur legal fees of approximately $4,000.

Thanks for sharing your story. It means a lot to everyone.

Posted @ Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:42 PM by lawrence berezin

Milly,

Thanks for stopping by, and posing a very interesting question. My recommendation is to check the front of your parking ticket for defects. If you find a missing, misdescribed or illegible required element, you win upon application.

The warriors enforce the bus stop rule, regardless of the vagaries of the bus schedules. Unfortunately, the last bus running doesn't temporarily halt enforcement.

Great idea.
Thanks for sharing.

Posted @ Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:46 PM by lawrence berezin

Apparently the judges in the NYC parking are very partial. Even though the law clearly says that a ticket with mandatory description should be flawless, the judge in my case replied that the mistake on their part did not change the outcome. Either he/she is ignorant of the law, or they are allowed so much latitude, that it's useless to contest a ticket.

Posted @ Monday, June 07, 2010 5:45 AM by Giovanni Ciriani

Follow-up to my "snow emergency" sign plea from back in March: no go. Judge wrote: "A bus stop is not measured in footage, or yellow lines, but runs to end of block or next regulatory parking sign, exclusive of snow emergency signs, whichever happens sooner." Oh well.

Posted @ Monday, June 07, 2010 6:43 AM by Mike

Re: snow emergency.
Yes, but if the law states so, the snow sign doesn't count, and the judge is interpreting the law correctly.

In my case the judge didn't interpret the law correctly. I pointed out that the law was on my side, but nevertheless the judge threw it out.

Posted @ Monday, June 07, 2010 6:56 AM by Giovanni Ciriani

Mike
We all appreciate you returning with the outcome. We can all learn from your parking ticket experience.

Please stop by and share your opinions. Thanks!
(I know how you feel. Believe me, I've taken my lumps).

Posted @ Monday, June 07, 2010 7:42 PM by lawrence berezin

Giovanni
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your comment. We've handled a gazillion parking tickets over the years, and believe it or not, win most of the parking tickets we should win.

However, I never forget the parking tickets we lose, when we should have won. It makes me fight harder and smarter the next time. When you're right-FIGHT. Please, don't give up. If you do, the bad guys win.

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, June 07, 2010 7:47 PM by lawrence berezin

hi every one thier is a scam going on and here is one of them i park my car in parking meter i paid the money. i go to the store for about 10 minutes i go to my car there is a ticket for $115dollars for no standing sign from 4pm-7pm this is crap they take my money and i get a ticket for being a good guy. this is legal robbery and thats not right.

Posted @ Monday, June 14, 2010 7:25 PM by JOHN

John
When you're right-FIGHT!
What's your next step?

Posted @ Monday, June 14, 2010 7:28 PM by Larry Berezin

i took pics of the sign i m trapped because the sign was there but an average person would not think this would happen to them im going to try to fight it by mail because I will lose money for work

Posted @ Monday, June 14, 2010 7:48 PM by John

John
Fighting by mail is fine. You may wish to consider sending your defense in the form of an affidavit, rather than a letter because the parking ticket is a sworn statement by the warrior. You're un-sworn letter will not be given the same weight.

If you want to rant and rage, please feel free to do so. If you want to win, tell a persuasive story and present a legal defense. The "average person" defense has no chance of working.

I'm happy to view your pix and make some suggestions.

Good luck.
Let us know how you do.

Posted @ Monday, June 14, 2010 7:56 PM by Larry Berezin

im going to try to fight it. i may not win. i took a pic of the meter and the sign together the sign those say no standing between the hrs of 4pm-7pm.but i feel its a trap because most people dont look up at the signs especially when you park at a meter you think your safe i learned today dont park at any meters

Posted @ Monday, June 14, 2010 7:56 PM by John

John
Good luck!

Posted @ Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:56 AM by Larry Berezin

i woke up this morning and figure that i will write a letter and tell the truth that drove my daughter to her dance recidal pratice parked my car at a meter thinking that i was good to park and came back to the car thier was a ticket for $115 dollars you think this may work by just being true

Posted @ Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM by John

John
You raise an excellent question. Let me answer it this way...Suppose you robbed a bank, I mean, you really robbed the bank. You're led to the courtroom in handcuffs and the judge asks you, how do you plead?

You say, NOT GUILTY.

The judge asks you what is your defense.

You say, I got dressed, put on a mask and went into the bank with a machine gun and took the money.

The judge will say. Thanks for being truthful. GUILTY, 30 years to life.

You get no points for honesty. You are expected to tell the truth. However, if the truth isn't a viable defense. GUILTY. There is no such thing as throwing yourself on the mercy of the parking court.

John, parking tickets are emotional events. There are a number of ways to beat a parking ticket. I respectfully suggest, not looking up at a parking sign isn't a defense. If the sign was hidden from view, now that's a different story.

My suggestion is to apply for the reduction. Let's live to fight another day.

Let me know what you decide.

Posted @ Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:35 AM by Larry Berezin

thank you you make sense

Posted @ Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:53 AM by John

just want to let you know that i have beat the parking ticket because i had pictures and my intentions was to pay for the spot.He felt that there was no need for me to get a $115 dollar ticket for a meter spot.i guess thier is a god

Posted @ Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:59 AM by john

John
That is terrific
Congratulations.
Thanks for sharing your happy ending with us.

Posted @ Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:16 AM by Larry Berezin

Hello, the expiration date on the summons i received for a meter violation is wrong. The expiration date of my car's registration is 9/11 and they put on the ticket 5/11. Is that enough for the ticket to be invalid? Let me know.

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:02 AM by Ari

Ari,
You are a WINNER! Expiration date is a required element. If inserted incorrectly, you are entitled to a dismissal of your parking ticket upon application.(assuming your vehicle is a NY State registered vehicle)

Simply send a letter pointing out the mistake, attach a copy of your vehicle registration, and light up a victory cigar.

Congratulations.

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:28 PM by lawrence berezin

Thanks larry but Hold on- before i get my hopes up would this still work if my car is registered in MD ?

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:49 PM by Ari

Ari,
Yes, indeed. It is my understanding that MD plates display the month and year of expiration. If so, attach your registration and a couple of pix of your plates showing they're attached to your car, and up close showing the month and year stickers on the plates.

Great follow up question. Please confirm my understanding about MD plates is correct. We've represented clients from MD. I love the State. I Used to live in Bethesda, on Democracy Blvd.

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:00 PM by lawrence berezin

You're right they do show on the plate the date of expiration but just to confirm all i need to send is a copy of registration and picture of plate. Thanks your the best !

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 9:29 PM by Ari

Hi,

Great blog. I just got towed for apparently parking in a bus stop that i swear you need binoculars to see. Is this legal? Why didn't I just receive a ticket?

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:49 PM by Mark D'Angelo

Ari
Yes. All you have to send with your defense letter asking for a dismissal because of an inaccurate expiration date is photos of your plate (close up and attached to your vehicle), and a copy of your vehicle registration.

Knock 'em dead.
Let us know the outcome!

Posted @ Friday, June 25, 2010 7:34 AM by Larry Berezin

Mark
Thanks for visiting our website and posing a great question about the rules of the towing game.

In the 1950's the NY State legislature declared all of NYC a tow away zone. This means that your car can be towed any time, any place, for any parking violation in NYC.

Many members of the driving public are not aware of this "game changer." So, technically they can tow your car. Ethically, I hate it.

Please check for mistakes on the front of your parking ticket. If a required element is omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you're entitled to a dismissal of your parking ticket and a refund of your towing charges, upon application.

If no mistakes, do you have a defense to the parking crime? Were you legitimately parked inside the bus stop zone. A bus stop zone begins at the bus stop sign and extends in the direction of the arrow(s) until; either, the next parking sign or the end of the block.

Or, were you stopped temporarily to discharge or pick up a passenger?

If none of the above, I suggest you apply for a fine reduction. Your fine will be reduced from $115 to $90. If you're not sure how to apply on-line, I've prepared a couple of power point presentations on Larry's Blog, under "application for fine reduction." It's easy once you know how.

Good luck!

Posted @ Friday, June 25, 2010 7:43 AM by Larry Berezin

I parked at a meter but part of the front end of the car encroached slightly beyond the pole with left arrow into a bus stop. I received two tickets. One for “No Standing” and the other for “Bus Stop”. Each is $115.00. I tried to fight it but lost. I paid the $230. Now I want to appeal. Any advice? Thanks.

Posted @ Friday, July 02, 2010 1:47 AM by Sim Shuden

Sim,
I'm perplexed?! I don't understand how you can receive these two violations. I'm happy to help but need to know more details.

Please tell me violation codes. I assume, VC 40 and VC 14? Off the top of an old, grey head, it sounds like you were charged with essentially the same offense; since a bus stop violation is a NO STANDING violation.

If you email me a copy of your defense letter, I'm happy to offer my comments. Please keep in mind you have 30 days from the date the judge made a decision to file your appeal.

Thanks.

Posted @ Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:55 AM by lawrence berezin

Lana,

Thanks for visiting our website and joining the conversation. I'm sorry to say, the color of you car is not a required element. The wrong color will not entitle you to a dismissal upon application.

If you have no substantive defense, and there are no other mistakes; you may wish to apply for a reduced fine.

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, July 26, 2010 7:53 PM by Larry Berezin

Hey larry,

I posted earlier about the meter ticket that had the wrong registration exp. date. I sent in a letter explaining this, with a copy of my registration and was still found guilty. Can you figure this out?

Posted @ Friday, July 30, 2010 4:12 PM by Ari

Ari,

Amazing. Did you send photographs of your car with the plate and then a close up of your plate as we discussed?

Looking forward to your reply.

Posted @ Friday, July 30, 2010 8:27 PM by lawrence berezin

Hello Larry,

What a great forum!

My daughter received a No Std-Bus Stop ticket in the Bronx. She had been living there and parking in that spot for months. She appealed the ticket(sadly I believe without photos) and got the reduced fine. The Signature of the Complainant on the ticket is L. Ortiz and Name of the Complainant is M. Ortiz. Do you think there is any chance of the summons being dismissed because of this discrepancy or should we bite the bullet and pay the fine. The car is in her name and mine and has PA plates. None of the cars with NY plates were EVER ticketed in the spot. Kind of makes your blood boil, ya know?

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Posted @ Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:24 PM by Donna

Donna,
Thanks so much for your kind words. They mean a lot to me. Here are some thoughts:
1. When you fight a parking ticket, you will be offered a reduced fine for most violations, in exchange for changing your plea to GUILTY. If you accept the offer, your case is over. You are not permitted a mulligan.
2. Very, very perceptive observation about the signature discrepancy. A digital (scanned) parking ticket does not require a signature. A hand written parking ticket does require the warrior's Darth Vader.
3. I suggests to our friends with out-of-state registered vehicles to always check "exp date." A warrior is required to enter the month and year of registration expiration and not "N/S" or "N/A."
4. In addition, always check the front of your parking ticket for mistakes. If a required element is omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you win upon application.

Please come back and share your parking experiences. They really help all of us learn about the wacky, expensive world of NYC parking tickets

Posted @ Tuesday, August 03, 2010 4:56 PM by Larry Berezin

Larry, thanks for your quick reply. I took a really close look at the ticket and the only other discrepancies I see are: On the plate number the second letter is "K" and it was written over but is legible; the color and model year are missing and the body type is described as a sedan and it's a coupe. Can you tell me if the missing color and model year and body type are significant or permissible? Thank you so much!

Posted @ Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:16 PM by Donna

Hi Donna,
Color and model year are not required elements on a NYC parking ticket...Sorry.

Body type is another story, and a little complicated for vehicles registered out-of-state. If it was a NY registered vehicle, the body type is required to be described exactly as it appears on the vehicle registration.

For out-of-state vehicles, the body type only has to be "reasonably accurate."

Your options are:
1. Apply for a reduced fine ($115-$90); or

2. If your body type set forth on your registration is other than a sedan, you may wish to fight your parking ticket for a misdescribed body type and attach a copy of your vehicle registration. You have a 50-50% chance of winning.

Good luck.
Let us know what you decide to do.

Posted @ Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:39 PM by Larry Berezin

After reading above comments I understand that a bus stop ends at the next parking stop or the end of a block, however does a crosswalk designate the end of a block? I ask this because of a particular street in brooklyn (where i was recently ticketed) named Shore Road, it is in essence one long street that runs from 101st down to 69th street without an actual break however there are crosswalks for every street. So would the fact that i parked before the crosswalk over 50 ft away from the bus stop be a valid reason for dismissal if i used the argument that the crosswalk designates the end of the block?

Posted @ Wednesday, August 04, 2010 5:20 AM by adam

Adam,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and post a comment with a very interesting question. My understanding is a block ends at the next intersecting street.

Here is a potion of an article you may find interesting on the subject of the length of City blocks.

"A city block is the distance between consecutive streets, running east-west, or avenues, running north-south. The Manhattan grid has about 20 streets per mile but only a few avenues per mile making it convenient to describe "short blocks" or "long blocks" (for blocks facing avenues or streets respectively). Portland, Oregon was laid out with most streets and avenues in a 200 foot grid, making more corner lots so that developers received more profit as corner lots command a higher price.

How exactly do you come to the conclusion that E-W is a 'street' and N-S is an 'avenue'? Last time I checked, 'street' is a road built up on either or both sides, and 'avenue' is a tree-lined road. [That's just the way numbered roads are laid out in Manhattan and some other places. It would surely be less confusing to use sets of numbers that don't conflict, particularly for visitors from places without that convention who don't suspect the vital significance in the "avenue" or "street" after the number, but that's how they named 'em.]

There is no definition of how big it is. Each city block is just as big as it is. They aren't even all the same shape.

A city block would typically be 1/16 to 1/8 of a mile,

In many large eastern cities, a CityBlock is a standard 1/20 of a mile. That is, there is that much space between the centerlines of the streets in grid-platted parts of the city."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_big_is_one_city_block.

I love your ingenuity in formulating a defense that will persuade a judge to dismiss you ticket. I don't think the existence or non-existence of a crosswalk has any thing to do with marking the end of a City block...Sorry.

Please be sure you check for mistakes on the front of your ticket. If any of the required elements are omitted, misdescribed or illegible you win upon application.

Good luck.

Posted @ Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:33 AM by Larry Berezin

I received two parking tickets, for parking with in a bus stop, and then towed. The tickets were issued exactly 1 hour apart. Is there a time restriction on how often tickets can be issued?

Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:44 AM by JPBud

Original post:Hi,

Great blog. I just got towed for apparently parking in a bus stop that i swear you need binoculars to see. Is this legal? Why didn't I just receive a ticket?

Posted @ Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:49 PM by Mark D'Angelo

UPDATE: Plead not guilty for a defictive ticket AND WON. The ticket said my registration expired 6/11/10 but it actually expires on 6/10/11. Justice is had.

Mark

Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:50 AM by Mark

JPBUD,

Thanks for visiting our website and posing your excellent, winning question!

It is customary for parking ticket judges to dismiss a second parking ticket for the same violation, in the same space, ONE (1) HOUR APART. Since your second parking ticket will be dismissed, you'll be entitled to a refund of your towing charges. After the dismissal, there is a form available on the web to apply for a refund. a link to the form is also available on Larry's Blog.

I suggest your first check the front of both parking tickets for mistakes. If a required element is omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you win upon application.

If none, I suggest you apply for a fine reduction on the first bus stop ticket; and fight the second bus stop ticket. You may wish to send a respectful letter to the Judge, at the address on the back of your parking ticket, by certified mail, return receipt requested.

Plead not guilty. State in the letter it is your understanding it is customary for the court to dismiss the second parking ticket when issued for the same....Reference BOTH summons numbers.

Congratulations!

Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:00 PM by Larry Berezin

Mark,
You made our week.
There will be dancing in the streets, tonight.

Thanks for the "heads up."
I love hearing about our friend's successes!

Congratulations.
Don't be a stranger, o.k.?!

Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:02 PM by Larry Berezin

hi larry i drive a tour bus 35 years and some cop gave me a ticket for being in front of a bus stop, i was 67 feet away and i was parked in the middle of a tour bus lay over parking sign i was in my bus at the time he just knock on my door and handed me a ticket, he told me to park across the street in front of a fire hydren ??? ny is a rip off state. not motorcycle, car, nor bus friendly THEY SUCK!!!

Posted @ Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:28 PM by joe crow

Hi, love the blog! So much useful info!
I have a question. I have received a ticket for “no standing in bus stop”. Apparently the bust stop was on the corner of the intersection by the fire hydrant. I did see the fire hydrant and parked really far away from it. The sign for the bus stop is hidden behind tree branches. The tree is in the corner of the intersection and the sight is exactly in the middle of the branches.
I took pictures. Do I have a shot to win?

Thanks much!!

Posted @ Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:40 PM by Polly

Polly,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm blushing.

I'm happy to offer you my humble opinion. If you'd like, please email me the photographs, and the place of occurrence, the way in which it is described on the parking ticket. Please email me at lawrence.berezin@gmail.com

If your ticket was issued more than 10 days ago, please include the summons number.

You'll have my reply within 24 hours of my receipt of your info.

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, August 16, 2010 6:34 PM by lawrence berezin

hi i was driving my car and i as i was driving i heard a grinding sound under my car i pulled over to the nearest spopt which was a hydrant. i looked under my car it looks like my wheel came off so i went to the side walk so i dont get hit by a car on a four way traffic street i call my mechanic as i call him a traffic agent was giving me a ticket i told her that my car was disabled.she told me it was to late she scan the car go fight it.i sent the recipt of my mechanic and it included the towing of the car they found me guilty i told them i already spent 277.00 dollars already i dont know why they found me gulity of something i had no control of. i see if i kept driving i would have been very hurt or killed i just dont this city is evil

Posted @ Wednesday, August 18, 2010 7:47 PM by john

John,
Welcome. Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and share your NYC parking ticket horror story. If it is any comfort, you've joined a terrific community of the NYC driving public with many stories of parking ticket warrior abuse.

If 30 days hasn't gone by since the bad decision, I strongly recommend you file an appeal. You did the absolute correct thing, and presented the proper proof to win your case.

Sorry about the injustice.
Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:56 PM by Larry Berezin

Hello Larry,

I have been written not one but 3 bus stop violation tickets within two hours! I see the law is obscure and although I was over 40 feet away from the bus sign I was not behind the next sign on the street. Is there anything I can do about this? Do I have a leg to stand on to get two of the tickets dismissed?

Posted @ Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:47 PM by Leanne

Leanne,

Wow. The warriors really, really ganged up on you and your poor car.

Here's what you may wish to do:
1. First, check for mistakes on all of the parking tickets. If you find an omitted, misdescribed or illegible required element on the front of your parking ticket (mistake), you win upon application.

2. If not, parking ticket judges will generally dismiss the second, third, etc. parking ticket(s) issued within one hour of another parking ticket in the same space for the same violation.

3. On the ticket(s) issued outside the one hour get of jail free period, I suggest you apply for a fine reduction; unless there are mistakes as described in #1

Good luck.

Posted @ Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:37 PM by Lawrence Berezin

Thanks for your advice Larry. I will sending in a letter via mail, I believe I saw you state in a previous post web hearings get lost.

The first of the series of tickets is missing my registration expiration and the plates are out of state, huzzah! The second and third tickets are one hour and 12 minutes apart. None of the tickets have the time or date that my vehicle was first observed in the illegal parking spot marked but they are written by three different officers so I don't know if that is relevant.

When writing in should I be asking for the first ticket to be dismissed due to missing information, the third ticket dismissed due to being so close in time to the second and then apply for a reduced fine for the second ticket?
That's a mouthful.

Posted @ Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:14 AM by Leanne

Leanne,

Great to hear back from you. Let's talk about the omission of the expiration date a little. In order to raise that defense, your out-of-state plates must display the month and year of expiration on the plates. OR, you must have your registration sticker posted on the windshield of your car.

If not displayed on your plate or windshield, then a warrior is permitted to insert NA or NS.

Please be sure to include a copy of your vehicle registration AND photographs showing your plate (or windshield registration) attached to your car and a close up of the plate or registration showing the month and year of expiration.

If two of your tickets were issued within one hour of the other, which seems to be the case, fight your parking ticket by asking the judge to dismiss the second parking ticket for that reason. In other words, the second ticket which was issued within one hour of the first is the ticket the judges will generally dismiss. Please refer the judge to the parking ticket numbers for both parking tickets that were issued within one hour of the other.

When you submit your defense by mail, please be sure to send your defense package by CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED. The DOF has a nasty habit of loosing submissions by mail.

I've urged our friends NEVER to dispute a parking ticket on line. Never, ever.

Great news.
Good luck fighting the good fight. Please let us know the outcome.

Posted @ Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:38 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi -

Last spring I got a ticket for parking 100 feet from a bus stop on an avenue where, on one side, there's a multi-block housing project (no cross street), and on the side where I parked, a multi-block, city-run, recreation center, soccer field, etc.

Apparently, because there's a traffic light and a crosswalk, there is an "end of the block". I pleaded not guilty to the ticket (because, among other things, there were 3 cars parked in front of mine, as well as a parked FDNY ambulance not responding to a call). Lost. Appealed. Just lost again.

My gripe is more fundamental: is it fair or reasonable that a bus stop can be 50 feet on one block, and hundreds of feet on another? Has anyone ever fought the reasonableness of the rule that bus stops extend varying distances depending upon where the next sign, or the end of the relevant block, is? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Posted @ Thursday, September 23, 2010 4:08 PM by Eric

Eric,

Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit and post a great question. The average length of a NYC bus is 40 feet, and some are longer. A bus stop ends, as you correctly state, at the next parking sign in the direction of the arrow(s)on the bus stop sign; or if no parking sign, the end of the block.

I am wondering whether any of our friends can provide Eric and I with some insight on what planning goes into setting the specific length of a bus stop zone on a city block? I don't know.

Is it reasonable to have a different length, with no consistent length from one block to the next? In my humble opinion it would be reasonable if:

1. Notice was given to the driving public in very visible places about how to determine where a bus stop begins and ends. IT IS NOT!

2. If there were a rhyme and reason for varying lengths. For example, the length was determined by such factors as; the number and frequency of the buses at a particular bus stop, the length of the buses at a particular bus stop, etc.

I'd love to hear what our friends think about this?

Posted @ Friday, September 24, 2010 9:11 AM by Larry Berezin

Eric,

Great question. Yes, members of the driving public with a lot of character and gumption fight some of the arcane parking rules. You'll find these cases discussed, and offered as FREE downloads on our website.

For example, John Young challenged a warrior's insertion of the wrong time to ticket his vehicle an alleged minute after the rule changed, presented the proper proof, properly and beat his ticket in the NY Supreme Court. Another member of the driving public challenged the rule requiring payment of a parking fine before having an appeal considered by the PVB, and won. A third lady challenged the NYC prior practice of prohibiting out-of-towners from applying for the NYC handicap parking permit. Unfortunately, Ms. Liu lost in the United States Federal Circuit Court of Appeals. This law was recently changed by NYC.

Keep in mind that a victory in the NY Supreme Court is not binding on the PVB for future cases. The PVB's strategy is not to appeal the cases they are not confident of winning because if the PVB loses in the NY Appeals Court, the rule of law in the case then becomes binding on future decisions.

As far as challenging the entire system of laws, rules and regulations on a myriad of constitutional theories, if anyone has tried, they lost. This byzantine system seems to be indestructible.

However, we, as a community, can effectuate change by fighting the good fight one bad rule or decision at a time, when we are right. For example, Fox 5 News and New York Parking Ticket fought to change and publicize the prohibition against parking in front of a pedestrian ramps in the long street of T intersections without a marked crosswalk and traffic signs or controls regulating traffic. The rule was changed and publicized.

That little piece of orange paper sure conjures up a volcano of emotions. Please, don't be a stranger. Your opinions matter to us.

Posted @ Monday, September 27, 2010 7:33 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry,

I posted several weeks ago and due to some technical issue could not get back on the blog.
I have received a ticket for parking at “no standing in bus stop”. Apparently the bust stop was on the corner of the intersection by the fire hydrant. I did see the fire hydrant and parked really far away from it. The sign for the bus stop is hidden behind tree branches. The tree is in the corner of the intersection and the sight is exactly in the middle of the branches.
I appealed the ticket by mail and received an offer to reduce to $90. I’m trying to decide should I appeal further or just pay it?
Any wisdom you can share will be greatly appreciated!!
Love the blog!!
You are the best!

Posted @ Monday, September 27, 2010 8:31 PM by Polly

Polly,

I'm sorry you had a technical barrier to re-entry. Welcome back...

Here's my response to your comment of August 14, 2010.

"Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm blushing.

I'm happy to offer you my humble opinion. If you'd like, please email me the photographs, and the place of occurrence, the way in which it is described on the parking ticket. Please email me at lawrence.berezin@gmail.com

If your ticket was issued more than 10 days ago, please include the summons number.

You'll have my reply within 24 hours of my receipt of your info.

Good luck.
Posted @ Monday, August 16, 2010 6:34 PM by lawrence berezin"

I'm happy to help.

Posted @ Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:55 AM by Larry Berezin

Great information,

Today I received a ticket for parking/Standing in a Bus Lane. I pulled over to drop my girlfriend off and like literally 10 second later an Officer pulls over while my girlfriend is coming out of the car. I told the officer im just dropping my girlfriend off, but she said I’m getting a ticket anyways for standing in a bus lane. I told her there are no signs showing that, and proceeded to show her that the lane is blocked regardless since they had barricade stand at the end of the block. She gave me the ticket and went on her way, I immediately took out my phone and took a few pictures which can be found on the following Link.

http://picasaweb.google.com/sshiwnath/Parking?authkey=Gv1sRgCLGJr8D-pNeRcA&feat=directlink#

I then went straight to the dept of finance to attempt to fight the ticket, the Judge upheld the ticket because, I had not taken picture of the Street signs showing exactly what avenue/street it was from street to street and showing all signs. She did a google map search to looked at the signs and found the following to verify the Signage on building to match my photographs

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=457+2nd+Avenue,+New+York,+NY&sll=40.764373,-73.961609&sspn=0.089061,0.114326&g=2nd+Avenue,+New+York,+NY&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=457+2nd+Ave,+New+York,+10010&ll=40.74312,-73.97702&spn=0.005568,0.007145&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.743208,-73.976961&panoid=w7QYCoIXjUXKgdOUIM-l_g&cbp=12,277.29,,0,10

She noted a sign the show BUS ONLY 7am-10am, I told her a didn’t notice that sign. And I figured I was wrong since she pointed that out. She went on the upheld the ticket, stating my argument of dropping off a passenger was not “persuasive”, When I left I decided to look at my photo’s once more, you will NOT see the sign she dismissed my case on was because it is NO Longer there, so she basically used an old outdate picture to upheld.

I Plan on appealing, do you think I have a chance?

Posted @ Monday, October 18, 2010 4:54 PM by Kelvin

Kelvin,
Thanks for the kind words. Boy, you really got snookered by the warrior and the judge. The parking ticket daily double.

Yes. You should appeal. But, you made some technical errors in presenting your proof, properly.

I'm happy to suggest a strategy, but it is really too long and involved for my arthritic fingers to post in reply. Please feel free to call me at your convenience.

BY the way you did an incredibly good job, since you acted faster than a speeding bullet. Some times it may be better to let your emotions subside, rather than storm the PVB when you're outnumbered.

Truth of the matter is you were well within you parking rights to stop and drop your passenger in a bus lane. The challenge was presenting the proper proof, properly which consisted of overlapping photographs of the entire block, with close ups on all the parking signs.

There may be a way to win on the appeal; especially since you were RIGHT! I look forward to helping you so the second bite of the appeal tastes very sweet.

Posted @ Monday, October 18, 2010 5:25 PM by Larry Berezin

Leanne,

Great to have you join the conversation with an excellent question. Let's consider the rules, first.

You are permitted to temporarily stand in a bus stop to expeditiously pick up or discharge a passenger. Temporarily is 2 minutes or less.

A bus stop zone begins at the bus stop sign and continues in the direction(s)of the arrow(s) until:
1. The next parking sign, or;
2. The end of the block

The length of a bus stop zone has nothing to do with the length of a City bus, which is on the average approx. 40-45 feet.

It has been our experience when a member of the driving public is picking up a passenger, and stops in a bus stop zone, the Judge wants to hear that the prospective passenger was waiting at the curb. Once you tell the judge the driver was waiting for you to come downstairs, you'll probably lose. The Judge isn't going to believe all of this happened in 2 minutes or less.

If you choose to fight the parking ticket your driver will have to present persuasive evidence that:

1. He/she was NOT standing in the bus stop zone, or;

2. He/she was standing in the bus stop zone for less than 2 minutes while waiting to pick you up, and;
a. There was no other free space next to the curb to stand waiting to pick you up without double parking (Not required but will dramatically increase your chances)

Your testimony without an independent witness, or some time of exceptional proof is NOT sufficient to persuade a judge.

Time first observed is not a required element for a bus stop violation. Did the warrior write "sitter" on the ticket? If so, adds to the difficulty.

I don't wish to sound so negative, but you have a formidable burden to overcome with the facts you present. This is one you may wish to apply for a reduced fine.

Let us know what you decide to do.
Good luck, Leanne.

Posted @ Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:06 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry. Great site!

I had my car towed the other day for parking in a bus zone. I have two questions for you:

My car was parked in front of building 465, though the ticket states 463. I don't have any pictures to prove where the car was parked before nor after since the car was towed. Also, building 465 is still within the no-parking-zone. Do you think the inaccuracy is enough to get me off? What sort of photo evidence would be useful?

Also, I think I read somewhere you advise against online appeals and recommend mail instead. Why is this? And what about in-person? I'd prefer to get this over with sooner than later...certainly quicker than the 75 days via mail.

Thanks in advance!

Posted @ Friday, November 05, 2010 9:24 PM by Matt

Matt,
Great questions.
I really feel your pain. Once you are towed, it kinda eliminates the ability to prove you were where you parked, and not where the warrior says you parked. As you very correctly noted, if the misdescribed place of occurrence still places your vehicle within the danger zone, I do not know of any way to present the proper proof properly to win.

The reason I recommend against fighting your parking ticket online is because you can't present any proof, photographs, affidavits, etc. If you read the small print by the online fight box, you'll see the DOF even tells you not to fight online if you need to present proof.

My suggestion is to check for mistakes on the front of your ticket. If none that you can prove, you may wish to apply for the reduced fine.

I sincerely appreciate your kind words. I wish I could have been more helpful in figuring out a way to fight and win.

Good luck.

Posted @ Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:17 PM by Larry Berezin

Joe,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and pose some terrific questions:

1. Never, ever fight a NYC parking ticket ONLINE. Never! Promise me, o.k.?

2. A parking ticket judge will dismiss a second parking ticket for the same violation, issued in the same parking space, within 1 hour of each other. I'm sorry you were a little late for that defense; BUT

3. There is a relatively new law to help you beat your unfair, ridiculous, ambush of a parking ticket. If a sign is moved, installed, relocated, etc. within the FIVE (5) day period prior to your parking ticket(s) being issued, you can raise that installation as a defense. Please include proof of the date the new sign was installed, and the older sign eliminated.

You are a winner! And you deserve to be. Here's a link to the article I wrote on this subject, that will fill you in on the details.

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/bid/42853/Have-you-Heard-about-the-Terrific-New-NYC-Parking-Law

Posted @ Monday, November 08, 2010 12:04 PM by Larry Berezin

Im from California doing a cross country road trip, was unfortunate enough to park in the supposed bus zone with no sign at all. When they say SIGN, do they mean "Bus Zone, No Standing/Parking" or do they mean "Bus route ###"? There was a bus shed about 450 feet ahead. anyway, they put N/S in my plate expiry so i will contest it using that point as my primary point. My CA license plate has a FEB 2011 sticker right on the plate, but its in the REAR plate. front plate has nothing (as per Cali law) so.. is this still valid? its very visible if you look at the rear of the vehicle, not just the front. Thanks!

Posted @ Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:33 PM by jade

Jade,
Welcome to NYC! Sorry about your unfriendly treatment. You are now officially a member of the NYC driving public, with all its special rewards.

There must be a Bus stop sign designating an official bus stop (with a little bus in a circle on top of a poll). If none, I suggest submitting overlapping photographs of the entire block with close ups of each sign, as one of your defenses to this nasty orange epistle.

When you're right--FIGHT. You can never predict the outcome of a NYC parking ticket case; but, your parking ticket should be dismissed whether the month/year exp. sticker is displayed on the front or rear plate.

Please be sure to submit two photos showing your vehicle with the plate attached and a close-up of the plate. I suggest submitting an Affidavit attesting the sticker was stuck on the plate, as required by Calif. law, PRIOR to the date your parking ticket was issued, and was displayed on the plate on the date of issuance...

Good luck!

Posted @ Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:40 PM by Larry Berezin

Fantastic, thanks Larry. Do I have to get my affidavit notarized?

Posted @ Friday, November 12, 2010 5:30 PM by jade

Jade,
Yes. Your Affidavit must be notarized.

Please let us know how you make out.
We are rooting for you.

Posted @ Friday, November 12, 2010 8:49 PM by Larry Berezin

Polly,
Your kind swords are a wonderful way to start to a week. Thank you!

Faster than a speeding bullet..

I'm sorry to report VIN# is not a required element. Omitting or misdescribing a VIN# is not a get out of jail free ticket.

However, a warrior is required to insert the meter#, and enter "Y" for operational. If not, you win upon application.

Your parking ticket is eligible for a reduced fine. Here's a link to a power point I did to walk you through the process.

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/?Tag=apply+for+reduced+fine+%28shortcut%29

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, November 15, 2010 8:34 AM by lawrence berezin

I just got a letter in the mail that was dated for a violation in Brooklyn. It stated that I was at 980 3rd Avenue @ 7:36pm - it reads: "no pkg-handicap" for $180 plus $10 penalty...when I looked at my calendar...I realized that this was in the Costo parking lot. I do not park in "HANDICAP PARKING" and I never even got the orginal summons. All of the info on the notice in mine...but I was not parked there. The total is now $190!! WHAT DO I DO? Please advise.

Posted @ Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:45 PM by Kelcasey

Kelcasey,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and post a comment, which really warns the driving public about parking ticket ambushes.

I am truly sorry to report I am at a loss to suggest a way to beat this parking ticket. You or your car must be served with the original parking ticket; but I don't know how to present proof that will persuade a judge to dismiss your parking ticket under the circumstances you describe.

Was your car in the COSTCO parking lot on the date the ticket was issued? If so, it's going to be tough to beat this parking ticket.

I would tell your story, by affidavit, and hopefully with a witness certification; and wish for the best. There is no fine reduction, so you have nothing to lose; except your valuable time.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.
Let me know what you decide to do.
Good luck.

Posted @ Friday, December 03, 2010 8:31 AM by Larry Berezin

I just received a parking ticket for a bus zone. From my understanding of your post, the bus zone goes to the end of the block if there is no other signage. My question regards painted curb. The block that I parked on in Fresh Meadows, Queens has a yellow curb from the bus zone extending about 75 feet and then a normal curb for about 10 feet to the end of the block. I parked in that 10 foot area and got a ticket.

To me, this screams confusion and it blatantly unfair. We NYers are trained that if there is a painted curb area, it is not valid for parking. I spoke to the owner of the home in front of the unpainted area and he told me that people get tickets there almost every day. Even if I can't get the ticket dismissed, is there anything I can do to save others from making the same mistake and being out over $100?

Posted @ Monday, December 06, 2010 10:52 PM by Todd Sullivan

Todd,
I hear you loud and clear; and agree with you about the yellow curb confusion. I've tried to help with this by posting a number of articles that warn the driving public of the yellow curb ambush. Again...

YELLOW CURB MARKINGS HAVE NO MEANING WHEN IT COMES TO NYC PARKING TICKETS!! IGNORE THEM.
ESPECIALLY WHEN JUDGING HOW FAR TO PARK FROM A BUS STOP SIGN, OR FIRE HYDRANT!!

I'm going to publish the warning tomorrow or Thursday on the Home page of our website.

You offer to help is very, very thoughtful and kind.

Posted @ Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:23 PM by Larry Berezin

Here's a suggestion for what you can do to save others from making the same mistake: buy a small can of that yellow paint and paint the rest of the sidewalk yellow, all the way to the crosswalk. Yellow paint is supposedly meaningless in New York, but most people don't know that, and will otherwise make the same mistake you did. If you paint the curb all the way to the crosswalk, those who think it means something won't park where you did.

Posted @ Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:08 PM by Eric

Larry: Thanks for the great site!

2 quick questions:

I drive a Limousine out of Maryland. 2 weeks ago, I had just picked up 12 passengers at a Bus Stop in NYC. As my passengers were putting their kids into carseats (probably took about a minute or two), a parking officer walked up and started quickly typing into her ticket machine. I immediately confirmed that my passengers had gotten their kids into seatbelts, then pulled into the street. In my sideview mirror, I noticed the parking officer stepped into the street, looked at my back tag, and kept typing as I drove away. Even though I was never given a parking ticket, I found her behavior very odd. So I checked a few days ago on the NYC ticket website via my limo plate number and found the ticket was indeed in their system! (No VIN is on it since she never got that close to the car)

I have 2 questions: Is a ticket legit even if its never given to the driver or affixed to the car? Her signed affidavit at the bottom of the ticket seems to indicate its not. Also, isn't it reasonable in a huge limo that my passengers might need a moment to get into their seats?

Any advice you can give would be much appreciated - Thanks!

Posted @ Monday, December 20, 2010 2:15 PM by Scott

Scott,
Thanks for your kind words, and sharing your unfortunate NYC parking experience. There is a NY Supreme Court (trial court) decision stating service of a parking ticket by mail is not permitted. Unfortunately, the DOF pays it no mind; since it is not binding because it is only a trial level decision.

It is difficult to beat a bus stop ticket. Even though the rule permits standing in a bus stop zone temporarily to expeditiously pick up passengers. Judges rarely find in favor of the driving public. Temporarily is 2 minutes or less. Expeditiously is always less time then it takes a member of the driving public to pick up or discharge passengers.

I'm sorry for all the negativity. You may wish to apply for a reduced fine on this one. Your fine will be reduced from $115 to $90. You can do this online. HOWEVER, before you throw in the towel, check the front of your parking tickets for mistakes. If a required element, such as make, expiration date, plate type, place of occurrence, body type (sometimes) is omitted, misdescribed or illegible, you win upon application. VIN # is not a required element...more negativity. What did the warrior insert for your expiration date?

Check out my blog post, "Apply for reduced fine (short cut) for a link and easy to follow instructions. Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, December 20, 2010 2:34 PM by lawrence berezin

Larry: Thanks for the quick reply.

The parking officer did get the tag expiration date right. In fact, I'm sure thats why she stepped into the street behind me as I drove away - to write that down.

And thanks for your advice about the very short length of my stop not really being a good defense.

But back to my first question: This ticket was never given to me or affixed to the vehicle. In fact, had I not observed the parking officers behavior (which is the only thing that prompted me to checked the NYC ticket database online), I never would have known it was in their system! I guess the first official notice would have been when my limo manager received a past due notice in a few months. FYI - As of now, nothing has been received in the mail so far. (the ticket was dated Dec 4)

I was able to view an image of the ticket online on the NYC ticket database. In the box where the officer signed, it says something like " I certify that I either gave this ticket to the driver or affixed it to the vehicle." However, neither one of those things took place. As mentioned earlier, I started driving away as she approached the limo.

So please clarify - can a parking officer give you a ticket without ever actually giving you the ticket or affixing it to the vehicle?

Because based on what the officer signed at the box at the bottom of the ticket - a statement saying that ticket was given to the driver or affixed to the vehicle - it doesn't seem like that can be done.

I've googled this question in detail about can't find an answer. Thanks!

p.s. If a parking officer can give you a parking ticket without ever handing you the ticket or putting it on the car - Yikes!

Posted @ Monday, December 20, 2010 3:00 PM by Scott

Scott,
Welcome to the wacky world of NYC parking tickets. Lots of "Yikes."

Many of the questions about NYC parking rules that are "Googled" in detail will never receive the correct response because when you deal with NYC parking tickets, many of the rules are honored in their breach. The rules absolutely mandate a parking ticket warrior hand you a parking ticket if you are sitting behind the wheel of your car when the ticket is issued; or place it on your vehicle. If they fail to do so, the rules say your parking ticket must be dismissed.

Judges NEVER, EVER enforce this rule; and there is no appellate level court decision on this issue the judges must follow. So, the answer to your question is Yes, the rules say you win. But, you'll never find a judge to enforce that particular rule. They will find your argument, "unpersuasive."

I can answer this question because we've been fighting NYC parking tickets for 15 years; and I'm an attorney with 34 years experience. I can't fix a broken sink, I can barely add, and I can't find my way home in the dark. But, I know how to fight a NYC parking ticket and win. And, I know when I can't fight and win.

In any court battle, every witness places their left hand on a bible, raises their right hand, and swears to tell the truth. Shame on the witnesses who lie; but many do. In the world of NYC parking tickets, the truth will not set you free; only the proof that persuades a judge.

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, December 20, 2010 4:07 PM by Larry Berezin

Larry: Thanks again for replying!

I hear your message loud and clear. Even though technically I should not have received this ticket (since it was written up as I was driving away), its most likely a losing battle. And I definitely defer to your expertise on this matter. I'll take this as a lesson learned - parking in NYC is a ruthless business and being "right" isn't enough - its all about what you can 100% prove or finding a mistake that invalidates the ticket. I guess I'll take the $15 reduction as a small victory - I'm sure many drivers aren't even aware of that option.

Final question: After you ask for a hearing on the NYC ticket website and are offered the reduction, do you have to pay the $90 right at the moment you accept the offer or do you have another 30 days to make payment?

Just wondering - Thanks!

Posted @ Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:18 PM by Scott

Scott,
Happy Holiday!
You've got it...When you're right--Fight, if you can present the proper proof, properly. Otherwise, take the reduction (If available) and live to fight the good fight another day.

Once you are granted a reduced fine, it is a final decision. No going back. BUT, you don't have to accept it on the spot. I'm not quite sure how long you can linger...I think until judgment is entered after 100 days. I wouldn't push it past 30 days, though.

Good luck

Posted @ Saturday, December 25, 2010 1:05 PM by Larry Berezin

Just got a $115 ticket for parking at a parking meter that magically became a no standing bus lane from 4-7PM, despite the fact that no busses would possibly go there because in NY we've been hit with a blizzard.

The best I can hope for is a reduction I guess. This really annoys me, we need to get rid of all of our politicians but nobody ever cares unless they themselves just got a ticket.

I will probably just pay the entire fine. I'm not sure how to get the reduction. I took the day off work for something else, and I pay more than enough in taxes, so this just really annoys me. I hate NYC with a passion and don't want anything to do with it if I can help it.

Posted @ Monday, January 03, 2011 4:07 PM by Serp

Hello,

Just got home with VC19 ticket. Typical situation with car sitting 80 feet from bus stop, however no clear designation whatsoever, and after reading all above posts, I feel like there is nothing I can do. This is really frustrating, how the city easily takes money from their residents.

I just see they did not include the VIN, and the lic. plate # is missing two letters. It is really tempting to ignore all this :)).

Especially I'm moving 10 hrs away from this City.

I have to chill out and rethink all this tomorrow.

Posted @ Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:41 PM by Mike

Mike,
Good idea. Chill until tomorrow and re-visit your dilemma tomorrow. Keep in mind you are a winner! If the license plate is wrong, you can submit your defense by mail (Don't forget to present the proper proof) and your parking ticket will be dismissed.

You may wish to check out tomorrow's Blog post, coincidentally, about bus stop violations. I'm offering some "tough love." In order for me to accomplish my New Year's resolution you've got to learn the rule, and execute the defense. No excuses.

You've got a defective ticket because of the wrong plate description. VIN# doesn't count.

Good luck. Where are you moving?

Posted @ Tuesday, January 04, 2011 9:20 PM by Larry Berezin

First off, I'd like to say that this forum has been great in helping me understand a little bit better how the ticket system works. I was recently issued a ticket for parking at a bus stop. I did choose to appeal through the web, and forfeit my discounted rate. That was before I read this though, because I just ended up making the argument that I thought I was reasonable far away enough from the bus stop itself, I do have the case where the sign that "would have" shown the end of the bus zone was missing, but I didnt state that in my argument. Also my car's body style was listed as 4DSD while it is a 4D SUV (if that is even a separate style). My main argument, was that the ticket I received was torn, practically in half. It was cut of at a point where it made it impossible to read the ticket number, as well as the fine amount. Lets hope thats enough to get it dismissed.

Posted @ Monday, January 10, 2011 4:47 PM by Jim

Jim,
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our website and share your parking experience with us. You are a winner because the body type of your vehicle (which is a required element) was misdescribed. Regardless of whether your vehicle is registered in NY or out-of-state, a 4DS is not a 4D SUV.

My only concern is if you fought on-line, you were unable to submit the proper, proof properly. To win, you must submit a copy of your vehicle registration as proof. If you lose because of insufficient proof, you should appeal.

The lesson I want everyone to learn is NEVER, EVER FIGHT YOUR NYC PARKING TICKET ONLINE!!!!

Please let us know the outcome.
Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, January 10, 2011 5:25 PM by Larry Berezin

I just got a "no standing Bus Stop" ticket. I was between the bus stop sign and the next parking sign, but the next parking sign (behind my car) said "No Standing 7AM-7PM except Sunday" (it was Sunday)and had arrows pointing in BOTH directions--so how can my parking there be illegal? I plan to contest this, but do I have a leg to stand on?

Posted @ Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:18 AM by Jackie

I have pictures of the above signage if you want to see them. Also, is it better to go appeal in person than to appeal by mail?
Your Website is amazing.

Posted @ Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:37 AM by Jackie

Jackie,
Good morning. Great question. You raise a very interesting point, i.e. whether a bus stop zone ends at a parking sign not in effect on the date you parked.

The challenge you face is, if the bus stop zone doesn't end at the sign you refer to behind your car, then the bus stop zone continues until the next parking sign, or the end of the block. Either way, you parked in a bus stop zone.

I love that you're thinking about establishing a defense. I'm not sure this one will get you across the finish line a winner.

Please let us know how you proceed.
Good luck

Posted @ Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:50 AM by Larry Berezin

Thanks, I understand. I was between the bus stop sign and the next sign (of course, I didn't know that's where a bus stop ends). But the sign behind my car said it was legal to park in front of it. If it is never legal to park between a bus stop sign and the next sign, wouldn't this be considered conflicting signage?

Posted @ Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:23 AM by Jackie

Jackie,
Great theory. I hate to continue to be a naysayer, but the custom that parking ticket judges apply when there are conflicting signs, is the stricter sign wins. In your case, it would be the bus stop zone winning.

With that said, if it were me and my hard earned dough, I would fight your parking ticket. Most of the modern world does NOT know where a bus stop ends; and would be very legitimately confused by a parking sign permitting you to park in a regulated space on Sunday.

I would simply argue that you parked in a legal space because the parking sign regulating your space permitted parking on Sunday. I would submit overlapping photographs of the entire block with close-ups on each parking sign.

I would not get into a discussion about confusing signage, because you'd be acknowledging the bus stop zone also covered your parking space, and ignorance of a parking rule is not a defense. You will need the "right judge" to win. One that does not bleed orange.

Please let us know how you decide to proceed. We are rooting for you!

Posted @ Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:54 AM by Larry Berezin

Eric,

Always great to hear from a friend of New York Parking Ticket. How did you pay for the muni-meter? You may have a shot to defeat this evil ticket if you paid by credit card; and there is a record of the time of payment.

If not, you may have to bite the bullet on this one and apply for a reduced fine. Please take action before your parking ticket lapses into judgment.

What are you going to do?
Looking forward to your reply.

Posted @ Friday, March 18, 2011 5:19 PM by Larry Berezin

I think I'm going to take your advice and just try to get a reduced fine. Do I do that by just disputing the violation? And if so, do I seek a hearing by mail, online, or does it not matter? Thanks.

e.

Posted @ Monday, March 21, 2011 12:12 PM by Eric

Eric,
Good afternoon.
A sad by wise decision.

Cut and paste this link into your browser.

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/resource-links/

It will take you to a page on our website. Click on the blue "Apply for reduced fine" button, and follow the instructions.

It is easy to do online, once you find the proper spot on the DOF website.

Good luck.

Posted @ Monday, March 21, 2011 3:49 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks Larry, but I already have a $10 "penalty," apparently because, having never gotten the actual ticket, I didn't respond before I got the "Notice of Outstanding Violation" in the mail. Can I still get a reduction (and perhaps an abatement of the penalty, too)?

Posted @ Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:14 PM by Eric

Sorry to bother you again, Larry, but I forgot to ask one more question: If the ticket (which I never received, but was able to view online at the "Reduced Fine Eligible" page) omitted my VIN, is that a basis for dismissal?

Thanks, as always.

Posted @ Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:22 PM by Eric

Eric,
Never a bother. Great questions.
If you accept the reduced fine, your $10 penalty will be abated.

VIN # is not a required element. I am sorry to report, you don't qualify for a get out of jail free card.

You may wish to proceed with the fine reduction.

Good luck.

Posted @ Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:25 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks Larry. I will certainly take your advice and do that.

By the way, is there a similar fine reduction available somewhere for cell phone and seat belt tickets?

Thanks again.

e.

Posted @ Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:30 AM by Eric

Eric,
You may wish to contact one of my terrific friends, Matt Weiss, Esquire, who limits his practice to making traffic tickets easy.

Here is Matt's contact information.
I'm sure Matt will be able to help you.

Matthew J. Weiss, Esquire

Weiss & Associates, PC

419 Park Avenue South

Second Floor

New York, N.Y. 10016

212-683-7373 X12

Or, visit their Website @ http://www.nytrafficticket.com/

Posted @ Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:42 AM by Larry Berezin

[quote]Mike,

Good idea. Chill until tomorrow and re-visit your dilemma tomorrow. Keep in mind you are a winner! If the license plate is wrong, you can submit your defense by mail (Don't forget to present the proper proof) and your parking ticket will be dismissed.

You may wish to check out tomorrow's Blog post, coincidentally, about bus stop violations. I'm offering some "tough love." In order for me to accomplish my New Year's resolution you've got to learn the rule, and execute the defense. No excuses.

You've got a defective ticket because of the wrong plate description. VIN# doesn't count.

Good luck. Where are you moving? [/quote]

Hello again,

I just went through my old email and found your response to my first post. I can't believe I missed it, since I had a chance to avoid paying a ticket. Obviouslu I paid it, which was $127, it grew from $115 for being late ($10) and using online payment ($2).

And now I see I was able to ignore it, since the license plate no. on the ticket was not correct.

Stupid me :)

Anyway, if that would be my only problem I would be the happiest person in the world.

BTW - I moved to Charlotte, North Carolin. Different world.

Thanks Larry for all your help. It is great what you are doing here, even though I was not smart enough to use it.

Posted @ Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:52 PM by Mike

MIke.

"Nothing is a waste of time if you use the experience wisely. ~Auguste Rodin"

It is so nice and majestic of you to share one of your slight mishaps. We all will benefit from your comment.

Good luck in Charlotte. I don't think I'm going to have to warn you to park safely.

Best to a great guy!

Posted @ Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:13 PM by Larry Berezin

Thank you Larry. I don't know what has to be done to receive a parking ticket in Charlotte :).

Good luck to you too.

Posted @ Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:09 AM by Mike

Jenn,

Good morning. Thank you for taking your valuable time to visit our website, and post a great comment. Thank you for you kind words. They mean a lot to me.

Customarily, If you do not accept a settlement offer by paying the reduced fine within the designated period of time in the letter, your parking ticket dispute is referred to a parking ticket judge to decide.

After reviewing you defense, if a judge believes you may have a good defense, but lack some essential evidence to properly prove your case; the judge will grant an adjournment to give you an opportunity to secure the evidence.

You should have received a letter from the DOF to that effect. Once the adjournment time passes, the judge will generally render a decision based upon the available evidence.

It appears your case fell through the cracks. You may wish to try to obtain a copy of the letter and see what it calls for. If that isn't an option for you, you may wish to apply for a reduced fine, and see if the confused system will grant it.

I do not recommend ignoring this sleeping crocodile.

Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:21 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry. This is a great website. I got a "No standing bus stop VC-19" ticket in Manhattan yesterday (Sun Mar 27, 2011). I had been driving around for a while looking for a spot, and I finally saw a car pulling out of a spot, so I took that spot when he left. There was a car in front of the spot (closer to the intersection) and a few cars behind it, so I just assumed it was a legal spot. After parking, I did quickly check the signs. My car was in front of a pole with 3 signs, and none of them said anything about the bus zone. They mentioned various parking rules, but none of those rules applied on Sundays. This seems to be similar to the issue "Jackie" had on Jan 26 2011.

I'm from New Jersey and I rarely park in Manhattan, so I didn't know about the rule that the bus zone extends all the way to the next sign. I was so far from the intersection that I couldn't believe there'd be a problem, and I never checked towards the corner for a bus sign. From reading this thread, this seems to be a common way for out-of-towners to get nailed with the VC-19 violation. I didn't take any pictures, but this google maps image shows where I was. I was in front of the pole in the middle of the image.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=441+3rd+Avenue,+New+York,+NY&aq=0&sll=40.725076,-73.992191&sspn=0.0005,0.001061&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=441+3rd+Ave,+New+York,+10016&ll=40.743513,-73.97973&spn=0,0.016973&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=40.743513,-73.97973&panoid=AIkQObCgwnNpfsD_H0dZ5Q&cbp=12,111.04,,0,-0.04

First, my car wasn't COMPLETELY on the wrong side of the pole. It mostly was, but part of my car was behind the sign. Does that matter?

Second, there's a lot of missing info on the ticket. It lists my color as "BLK", but my car is grey. I guess that doesn't matter. It also says "N/S" for 'Permit Displayed', "N/A" for 'Permit number', "N/A" for 'Type', "NS" for 'CD', "N/A" for 'Exp. Date', and "N/S" for 'Year'. 'Vin #' is blank.

Do I have any chance of getting this dismissed? If a reduction is the best I can hope for, I guess I'll take it. $90 is better than $115. But I certainly didn't expect to have to pay anything to park here. Thanks!

Posted @ Monday, March 28, 2011 9:06 AM by Bob

Bob,
Good afternoon. Thanks for stopping buy. You'll never get a parking ticket visiting our website. Thanks for including a link to Google Maps. It always helps me to see an image.

When you say 'Type' "NS" are you referring to plate type or body type? You may be able to beat this ticket.

Looking forward to your reply.

By the way, being a little in a bus stop zone is like being a little pregnant. You're pregnant. Sorry about that.

Posted @ Monday, March 28, 2011 4:01 PM by Larry Berezin

Thanks for replying! There's a field for just 'Type', next to 'Permit Number'. And "N/A" is written in that box. 'Plate Type' is filled in with "PAS" and 'Body Type' is filled in with "4DSD", both of which seem to be correct. So other than the color, it looks like all the info is correct.

Well then, I guess I'll be on the hook. I was 100 feet from the bus stop sign and I didn't know the rule about the bus stop zone extending all the way to the next sign. But like they say, "ignorance of the law is no excuse". I think I'll try to fight this by saying that I was parked "in front" of a sign that said it was legal to park there on Sundays, and then see what happens. Thanks.

Posted @ Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:04 AM by Bob

Bob,

Good morning and good luck!

Posted @ Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:50 AM by Larry Berezin

I had to pull off to the side of the road in NYC because I ran out of gas. A bus driver came over and told me that I was in a bus express lane and told me to move. I told her I could not until AAA came to give me some fuel. She said "good for you", your are going to get a ticket. Then she proceeded to take a picture of my license. Will I get a ticket and if yes, what recourse do I have?

Posted @ Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:31 PM by Jennifer Burnett

Jennifer,
Good morning. Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our humble home, and pose an excellent, intriguing question. Here is a blog post, and slideshare presentation you may wish to check out:

Bus Lanes:

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/bid/50834/How-to-Avoid-a-NYC-Bus-Lane-Parking-Ticket

Disabled vehicles:
http://www.slideshare.net/lberezin/test-your-nyc-parking-ticket-iq

You may very well be issued a parking ticket. I'd keep checking on line. I don't think there is any fine reduction associated with the violation you may be charged with. If not, I suggest fighting your parking ticket by arguing "disabled vehicle" trumps "bus lane" violation.

Please keep us posted.
Good luck.

Posted @ Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:20 AM by Larry Berezin

Thanks for the great information. I just wish I had found it BEFORE the incident in question--the pavement markings seemed quite clear! Ah, well, an expensive lesson learned.

Posted @ Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:58 AM by Andy

Andy,

Good morning. Thanks very much for the kind words. Now that you've found us, don't be a stranger.

Good luck.

Posted @ Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:14 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry,

This is a great website and info for such painful side of our daily NYC life.

I have seen some past response you had about this issue but I wanted your opinon further. My wife was issued a No Standing bus Stop (vc 19)vilation ticket in the Bronx. So while the actual ticket alone could be arguable based on where the car parked, to make things even worse and hefty, the car was also TOWED to NYC traffic center in Bronx which required an immediate $185 fee before we can even see the ticket.

I know that in manhattan there are many places clearly marked with signs "Tow Away Zone" for no parking or no standing. What I don't understand why is it not enough to just issue the ticket in this case where the car was almost half a block away from the bus stop sign and where there were no additional signs.

Why can't we approach our local reps in city hall and say, ok the city use this as great source of it revenue, but why is the double charge? Cars are not blocking the actual bus stop, don't tow them. 1 ticket charge will do. I get the feeling that, no matter if the actual ticket was just or not, that this is is on the verge of the crime family business. Very shady tactics to make you pay when your properity has been violated.

I appreciate your comments. Michael

Posted @ Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:14 PM by Michael B.

Michael,

Good afternoon. First off, thanks for your kind words. My mission is to empower you with knowledge that helps you make good parking decisions in the wacky world of NYC parking tickets.

You raise some very valid points, which can be answered by saying, NYC needs revenue; and parking tickets and towing is a recession-proof cash cow.

All of NYC is a tow-away zone; and has been so since 1959. But, when we are the victim of a ticket and a tow in an area where there are no warning signs; it feels like an ambush. An expensive, "gotcha."

Towing is justified by the powers-to-be by yelling about "safety." Sometimes the PTB are correct, like when a driverless car blocks a fire hydrant; but c'mon in other instances it is simply "show NYC the money."

Thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts with us.

Posted @ Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:46 PM by Larry Berezin

Larry, just a quick follow up. If this is indeed justified to tow and one may want to refute in event they feel it was not just base on where the car parked and use evidence, then what happened if they tow the car? you cannot obiously take photos retroactively... or could you.?

Also I think that there must be some kind of "arrangements" where the people who are running this operation tow cars at certain places with No Standing bus stop viloation and not another. It seems odd that my wife parked just before 9 am. Got the ticket at 9:12 am and got towed not so long after. by the time she was back which was maybe 1pm the car was gone.

Anyway I sure wish that something would be done to not double charge by ticketing and towing and nyc lawmakers that know better that there should be some fairness here.

Posted @ Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:41 PM by michael

Michael,

Good morning.
A ticket and tow presents a conundrum, for the exact reasons you mention. Once your car is towed, poof, no way to take a photo; and contest foul play by means of photographic evidence.

I hope by providing educational information to the driving public, it will empower you with the knowledge to make the best parking decisions possible. Unfortunately, as with gambling, the advantage goes to the "House."

Great conversation.

Posted @ Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:21 AM by Larry Berezin

I did some research and have a background in Criminal Justice B.S.
from a local university.

"No Standing" signs posted does not mean you cannot park on the street. It means you cannot be double parked, parked within 20 feet of a cross walk, etc, etc.. refer to NYS DMV Law.

http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmanual/chapter07-manual.htm

This attempt at clear communications has resulted in muddy perceptions on what we can and cannot do ( think restrictions of personal liberties ) as opposed to public safety.

Tight roadways offering no wide shoulders, or break down lanes, one way alley ways, or other bottle necks require special attention and this is where " no standing comes" in.

To be meaningful the law must have clear intent otherwise it is unconstitutional because of it's ambiguity. It has to prescribe in a clear way easily understood by the average person what the law requires.

Now this being said, "No Standing" DMV references "within 20 feet of a "marked" crosswalk. Some of our civilized citizens would park anywhere if you let them so restrictions must apply for public safety reasons.

The spirit of "No Standing" refers almost always to commercial activities where someone is loading or unloading something either passengers or other cargo.

Restricted choke points like alleyways require signs so that people will not double park and completely stop traffic at that location.

Am I clear in this?

Shame on all those Judges who decide otherwise when passing judgement on ignorant motorists! And the police who issue tickets prohibiting parking when parking is permitted.

For the legal profession, ignorance is no excuse if your job is to administer justice in a fair and honest way. Interpret it correctly and we are golden, do it wrong and civil disobedience will result.

Why should the US Supreme Court mess with these common scene issues? I've seen tons of lazy judges most of which have law degrees but because of their nature are lazy and do not research the law before passing judgement.

Let's get it right people! Insist on your rights and don't let the powers that be think we are without recourse.

Posted @ Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:38 PM by Dan Goldthrite Sr.

Dan,

Good evening.
I personally disagree with just about everything you say; but kudos for taking your valuable time to share your opinion.

Thanks for joining the conversation.

Posted @ Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:00 PM by Larry Berezin

Larry, I've got a great update! Originally on November 5th last year I asked about what to do to prove where you were parked when your car was towed and you had no photos. The outlook was bleak.

Well, I'm happy to report that after an unfortunately length process, I was able to beat the ticket! The original summons I disputed was upheld, but after seeing a panel of judges for the appeal they overturned the decision! Not sure if it was pity or what, as they again asked how I intended to prove my location without photos. I responded, "I don't know." I wasn't hopeful. Luckily enough I got a letter shortly thereafter stating the decision was overturned and I just got my refund check in the mail. Success!

Thanks for all the information, your site is really invaluable for those dealing with this mess of a system.

Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 11:47 AM by Matt

Matt,

Will wonders ever cease? Matt, I am thrilled for you! Great news.

I applaud your perseverance! You are the symbol of our mantra, "When you're right, fight." Nicely done, and thanks so much for sharing your hard work and good fortune.

Posted @ Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:31 PM by Larry Berezin

After reading through this website, I learned that I violated the rule and therefore got tickets. I received two tickets, one at 9:30AM, and another one at 2:35, $115 for each. Before reading this website, I had NO idea that I couldn't park there. I just moved from California two weeks ago for my new job. I know parking rule is crazy here so I have been extremely cautious about parking. When I parked at the bus stopping zone, I checked again and again... How can someone ever find out about this bus stop no parking zone without ever receiving a ticket..
So I parked my car there and went to work, receiving two tickets.

Would there be any chance of beating these tickets by stating that I'm new to the city...? (I'm not NY resident yet!!)

Thank you in advance..

Posted @ Monday, July 11, 2011 9:18 PM by Jonathan

I got a $115 ticket this past weekend, for parking in a bus lane (which i dont think i actually did, but that's another story) and the body type is left blank on the ticket. Does that mean it is not valid? What is the best thing to do here?

Posted @ Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:10 AM by MARA

What about No Standing Mon Thru Fri at a bus stop? I parked overnight Saturday at an M8 bus stop (which only runs weekdays) on St Mark's Place at Avenue A. On Sunday morning I got a bus-stop ticket. I assumed, as must have the other cars that were parked there all day Saturday, that I would be able to park there on the weekend since the bus stop wasn't active.

Posted @ Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:02 AM by Elizabeth Brown

Dear Larry,

Last night I parked my car on Riverside Drive between 73rd and 74th Streets. This morning I came to find it missing. NYPD towed it. After waiving down an NYPD officer I was told, "oh we probably towed it, ita really long bus stop".

I checked the parking signs and while there was a bus stop in front of me, it was at least 500 feet from where I parked. There was no sign to indicate the end of the "bus stop zone". Do you know of anyone who has been able to fight a ticket similar to mine? I have not yet seen the ticket but imagine it will involve bus stop violation.

Thank you!

Posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 10:03 AM by Herman

Wow! Great posts here. I lived in NYC for ten years and I thought I saw it all. Then last month when I was visiting I turned the corner onto Broadway and 94th just as the light was changing. A city truck was parked in the bus lane and I could not merge left because of the speed of traffic, so I stopped. You guessed it I turned into the bus lane. As I was trying to merge a bus came and blocked me in. Right behind the bus was a NYC police car. He did not give me the usual ticket––he gave me a criminal obstructing traffic ticket. I MUST appear in person to get a date for trial, then return for a trial. And no, I did not become argumentive with the officer. He said you are in the bus lane and I responded by saying, I'm trying merge into traffic. To which he said, "tell it to the judge." Short and sweet and outrageous.

Posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 4:24 PM by Jim

Jim,

Good afternoon.
What a horror story. If you need some help fighting this ticket, you may wish to contact a dear friend of ours, Matt Weiss, Esquire.

He is one terrific lawyer. His contact information is:

Matthew J. Weiss, Esquire

Weiss & Associates, PC

419 Park Avenue South

Second Floor

New York, N.Y. 10016

212-683-7373 X12

Or, visit their Website @ http://www.nytrafficticket.com/

Good luck, Jim.

Posted @ Monday, August 15, 2011 4:32 PM by Larry Berezin

I parked to the right of a fire hydrant, more than fifteen feet away, and to the left of the hydrant 100 feet down the block is a bus stop sign. Got a ticket for parking in a bus stop - shouldn't the hydrant mark the end of the stop?

Posted @ Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:54 PM by J

I just got a bus stop parking ticket for parking at the very corner (just outside of the corner's crosswalk)--a space on Third Avenue in NYC that I entered from a southerly approach. The entire length of the block had cars parked there, except for the corner, which was empty. When I discovered the ticket, I started to walk up the block and discovered that there was a bus stop sign MORE THAN 90 FEET AWAY (at the other end of the block).

In addition, the color of my car was incorrectly noted on the ticket.

I noticed that more and more tickets are written with Palm Pilots, and then printed with portable printers. If only we could all get hold of some powerful electro magnets. The next time we see a brownie busting someone's b--ls, we can slip the electro magnet into a brown lunch bag, turn it on, and then abruptly walk up to the brownie and hold the lunchbag right near their little Palm Pilots--teach them that if they partake in a NYC run scam ("No Standing" sign over 90 feet away), that it will cost THEM dearly. There's no such thing as a "free lunch" (pun intended)

Posted @ Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:41 PM by Stephen Weber

Hi,
I parked in NYC, didn't see any parking sign, not behind, not in front of me. I parked close to the intersection. When came back to the car, obviously, I got a ticket. (No [parking Mon-Fri 8am-6pm). I walked all the way to the next cross street, and only close to the intersection I saw a parking sign.
Can a no parking sing be located anywhere on the block with an arrow, so that it covers the whole block?

Posted @ Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:43 PM by Zohar

Zohar,

It hurts me to report that NYC DOT requires one sign, on a gotcha pole, anywhere on the entire block, to ruin your day.

If there was no other parking sign between the evil gotcha pole and your parking space, you're doomed.

Check out the front of the parking ticket for mistakes. If a required element, such as make, expiration date, body type, plate type, etc. is omitted, inaccurate, or illegible, you win upon application.

If none, you may wish to apply for a reduced fine.
Here's a link that will help. <http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/resource-links/>

Posted @ Wednesday, November 02, 2011 5:17 PM by Larry Berezin

I hope someone has advice. I dont have much time left to figure this out. I have worked in the same building for the past few years and park in front of it many times. One day I parked in the same spot, and when I came out of work....I saw a ticket on my windshield stating I was parked in a bus stop. Of course, then I looked up and saw a Bus stop sign

directly in front of my car. I truly believe that when I went into work, it wasnt there. I then went home and went to the mta website where it was stated that effective 9/4/2011 there was going to be a bus route change. I got the this ticket on Sept 1. I pleaded not guilty and sent in a copy of the notice from the MTA along with a letter and was still found guilty. I went to a congress person in the neighborhood, which did not help me. Any ideas ????

I just hate paying for something that I know I am in the right for....

Thank you.

Posted @ Thursday, November 10, 2011 7:58 PM by Anna

Hi Anna,

Good morning.
When you're right-FIGHT; and your parking ticket SHOULD have been dismissed.

I'm wondering if you presented the proper proof, properly. Here's a link to the applicable rule change that makes you a winner.

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/Blog/bid/42853/Have-you-Heard-about-the-Terrific-New-NYC-Parking-Law

Is there time left to appeal?

Posted @ Friday, November 11, 2011 8:11 AM by Larry Berezin

I received a parking ticket for being in a bus zone. I parked appox. half a block past a bus stop between an electric pole and a telephone pole.The No Parking sign was on the telephone pole which was past a private garage. I assumed I could park before the sign because there was a private garage. Could there be a private garage in a bus zone. How could I fight this ticket for $115.

Posted @ Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:31 PM by josh

Hi, I got a not standing/stopping( except tour bus for 15min)today.I got this ticket while I was picking up my friend and helping her to put her stuff in the tank that a meter maid showed up and despite my explanation and apology for the quick stop she issued a ticket for me. Do you think can I appeal to this ticket? location was Boston( bus stop and not standing/stopping fines in Boston are $100 and $75 respectively
). Thank you for your help in advance.

Posted @ Friday, November 25, 2011 4:43 PM by sam

Sam,

Despite my ill-will for all things Bosox and Celtics, I would absolutely help a Bostonian beat a parking ticket, if I could.

I am sorry to report, I'm not familiar with the parking rules in Boston. Each kingdom creates its own set of tricks to part you and your hard earned dough.

If this was NYC, I would suggest you apply for a reduced fine (unless there is a mistake on the front of the ticket) because you cannot load and unload personal property in a NYC bus stop. Rule is ridiculous. Plus, a driver cannot leave his/her car.

Good luck with your ticket.

Posted @ Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:39 AM by Larry Berezin

Hi Larry,

I got a no standing ticket and coler was "oth". Its a burgundy car. Can I fight this ?

Posted @ Monday, December 05, 2011 9:20 AM by ari

Ari,

Good morning.
I am sorry to report that "color" is not a required element. No-get-out-of-jail-free card for this mistake.

Any other defects?

Looking forward to your reply.

Posted @ Monday, December 05, 2011 10:13 AM by Larry Berezin

I parked my car on Riverside Drive near 73W str in the direction of Bus Stop Sign arrow near the next Traffic Sign. My bumper was sticking 5-8 inches off that Sign in the dirrection of the Bus Stop.

When I came back the car is gone.

I inspected the Ticket after I have paid towing penalty and get access to my car. I found that location is incorrect: Westend Ave instead of Riverside drive.

I will appeal. Should I only mention this mistake or discuss also legitimacy of parking near the next Traffic Sign? Thank you,

Leon

Posted @ Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:44 PM by Leon Epstein

Leon,
Good evening.
Sorry about your ticket and tow.

If you extended 1" into the bus stop zone, you're parking ticket toast. Very draconian, and it's horrible...especially the tow part.

If you can prove the location is wrong, you win. But, please please present the proper proof, properly.

If you need my help, you may wish to check out our "Larry's Advice" web page.

If you beat this ticket, your towing fees will be refunded.

Good luck.

Posted @ Wednesday, December 07, 2011 4:17 PM by Larry Berezin

I parked my car, apparently at the end of the bus stop, in front of the sign for street cleaning regulation that has arrow pointing in both directions. However the point of the arrow pointing towards the beginning of the bus stop has white sticker on, (still able to see that arrow goes both sides, not through the sticker, but the sticker is placed not straight and not covering the point completely), trying to modify the sign arrow to point only one way from the bus stop. Does it create conflicting situation worth to fight the ticket?

Tom

Posted @ Monday, December 12, 2011 12:52 PM by Tom

Tom,

Good evening.
Thanks for taking your valuable time to visit our humble home and post a comment.

I am happy to offer you my humble opinion. But,
please check out "Larry's Advice,"(a new service). If you'd like to participate in the service, please feel free to give me a call. Here's the link:

http://www.newyorkparkingticket.com/larrys-advice/

Good luck.
Best,
Larry

Posted @ Monday, December 12, 2011 6:25 PM by Larry Berezin

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